I'm a total Honey and Clover fanatic. If it means anything, I slept at an average of four hours for this week amidst a heavy semester just to watch an episode of H&C everyday. I think it's among the greatest anime of all time with its beautiful cocktail of human nature, goodness, emotions, and bittersweet relationships that only Shingetsutan Tsukihime could perhaps only par with. I've been told off by some people because I'm TOO rabid a fanboy. I, however, disagree with them – H&C still has its flaws despite it being among the greatest anime I've seen. However, I feel that there only has one big flaw that lessened the enjoyment of Honey and Clover, and that was changing the ED from Waltz to Mistake.
It was their biggest mistake. 'Mistake' just didn't deliver with its rock-ballady tones compared to the placidly plaintive 'Waltz,' and for me, the lyrics also didn't compare because Waltz was simply more symbolic than mistake. Seriously, I cried at ep6 and ep24 simply because Waltz was so well-ingrained into the scene that it conveys and paints it so beautifully to the viewer. This has not been achieved with 'Mistake,' even for heavy episodes like ep15 and ep16. Using 'Mistake' instead of sticking to 'Waltz' definitely detracted enjoyment of the show. It's because rock isn't a suitable genre, really, to use in an anime like this. Simpler ballads that are 'pop'-ish, or soulful deliver the message better, because this anime presents bittersweet experiences of a group of friends as they grow and improve and develop in life. Soul music tends to present this emotion better, and mixes better with the show as a whole, as one can observe.
I'd personally have enjoyed the heavier episodes more if I heard Waltz playing at the end rather than Mistake. I hope they don't make the same mistake again.
June 23, 2006 at 11:56 pm
For you it didn’t deliver, for me it generally did.
Sure it was not as good of a theme as Waltz, but I certainly wasn’t annoyed or incredibly mad they replaced it.
As for S2, the new season is only 13 episodes (understandable seeing how much manga left after S1), doubt we’ll get more than one ED.
June 24, 2006 at 12:54 am
Yeah. It wasn’t annoying, but given a classy series like H&C, it was for me their biggest mistake. The other parts were almost flawless, IMO.
June 24, 2006 at 1:51 am
Hmm, yes I really did like waltz. ALOT. But if I may differ a little bit, when episode 24 was ending and the fireworks up in the sky with takemoto and hagu talking, don’t you think when waltz played after using “Mistake” for 12 episodes made it more like a big damn holy BANG?
Me, and my brother were like, WTF Damn straight with the music man! =D
Well, other people will say that the transition with the Takemoto arc is like a flaw. But to me, the message conveyed after his journey made it all worthwhile.
June 24, 2006 at 4:38 am
The return of Waltz at the end of ep 24 was a triumph.
The effect was extraordinary. I loved it.
June 24, 2006 at 8:04 am
I don’t necessarily agree but I do agree it’s probably one of
the top three if not the best anime series of the last five or
six years and no wonder it is being made into a live action
movie – the STORY is king in H&C and everything else is
almost a secondary thing. It’s a great series and I can’t wait
to see season two.
June 24, 2006 at 11:03 am
If you guys put it that way, well, fuck, the use of WALTZ after Mistake was a fucking supernova. It was seamlessly intertwined with the story and the emotion evoked with the imagery of fireworks and the confession was simply FTW. I mean – come on. I cried at that last episode, damn it.
I agree, Jaq. Damn straight with the music, man!
June 27, 2006 at 9:03 am
I definitely agree. Whenever I hear Waltz starting to “creep” into, signifying the end of an episode, I begin to feel a tug at my heart and then followed by a rabid fangirl cries of “NOEESSS!!” “Woee is meeee!” or “ZOMG next episode plzkthx!”. However, with Mistake, there was no such reaction sadly. I didn’t mind the song too terribly but I would’ve definitely preferred it if they had kept Waltz as the ED. They didn’t change the OP, so I didn’t see the need for them to change the ED either.
June 27, 2006 at 4:15 pm
I can’t believe someone put it more succinctly than I did, and with 1337speak at that. Wow. *applauds Naddie*
August 28, 2006 at 10:29 pm
hmm… i must say.. H&C is one of those great anime that lack action but is filled with sentimental value… i haven’t made it past episode 13 as yet… so i must not read more comments… but i greatly apreciate ‘waltz’… just beautiful.
May 13, 2007 at 7:17 am
The Biggest Mistake of Honey and Clover