I have this weird hypothesis (based on fact) why I think Real and Vincent should end up together. (This is what keeps me watching the show: the thought that, one day [in the final episode perhaps], they'd end up together despite their shortcomings.) I'm banking on Daedalus to have done something with Real already, so I'm pretty much just picking between her become a fembot or another proxy, the first because of the fact that she was critically wounded on episode seven and would need a miracle and maybe some artificial parts that would technically make her t3h h0tn355, and the second grounded on the fact that she was implanted with some Amrita cells to allow her to recover and hasten her recovery.
In either episode ten or eleven we'd probably see a new Real. (I'm going to be happy if I see her after a long time xD) What lets her avoid being attracted to Vince will now become the reason why she will be attracted to him: they will be both oddly bizarre organisms if that happens.
Also note that Real is a repressed girl. In all of Romdeau, the only one that looks acceptable to get laid with is Vincent. Others are old people, Raul (who looks old), and Daedalus (who looks too young). Vincent has the right amount of cool and handsomeness to be the only one practically acceptable to Real. And one must admit that there has been something attracting Real to Vincent, but more noticeably, Vincent to Real. Eventually, we discovered that he really likes her: he's really besotted with her. I mean, he risked his life just to allow Real to be saved by acceding to the trade proposed by Queen. That's love.
Real is the one who does not reciprocate. She has seen too many quirks with Vincent and probably knows in her gut that he's something out-of-this-world. So she doesn't get too close, although we know he really did a lot for her, especially in the Commune episodes.
She will though, once she realizes that she's also become another being like him, and thus will probably develop love for him and eventually sexual desire.
She's repressed. One – there aren't any boys in the first place to be desensitized with. Two – there aren't even any girls shown – and a whole lot of humans are simply apices of genetic engineering. She's probably curious about this desire, and realizes something unique in Vincent. (This is based on cleavings of psychology: I'm just piecing them together to support why I think they probably will be together with Vincent.) She's simply afraid because she 'seems' normal. That's her sole barrier from being 'interested' in Vincent. Technically, she already *is* interested in him.
Discovering that she has become another quirk, another not-human like him will allow her to get closer to Vincent because the barrier is already broken. They will get close; do something, and probably end up together dying like most of these SF-genre anime or literature.
I've really only read Fahrenheit 451, and Guy Montag becomes infatuated with this girl whose name I have already forgotten because she reads books (thinks differently). In the future, as equality among every people is promoted even free thought is disallowed. He realizes there's something special about her, but she eventually is killed because the gov't wanted to remove weeds like her. You just twist the stories, and it's going to seem to become Ergo Proxy.
Of course, like the title of my blog says, this is purely speculation. I'm just making it something more concrete so that there seemingly is a reason why I believe that a love story will occur.
May 7, 2006 at 7:11 am
I think that Real is a proxy. My basis for this comes from when those AI statues were talking about her going out of line, and then one of them says that it was a successful experiment (regarding her) by putting her the…police dept? (sorry, forgot what line of duty she’s in)…and she’s finally become a good citizen.
So, they’re both Proxies (seeing as Vince is the Proxy of Death, who knows, maybe she’s the Proxy of Life or w/e), and then they continue on a path of love. I don’t know, but I guess we will find out.
May 10, 2006 at 1:15 pm
I think nomiyakun has the right idea here. Vince is Proxy of Death, and Real is Proxy of Life. At any rate, I think there’s a high chance Real is a proxy. What we may discover is that the Proxies are awakened by trauma (that certainly seems to be case at the moment for all the other Proxies). Mosque/Moscow Dome will give us a good look at Vincent for a clue in that direction.
But if Real is a Proxy, merely stabbing her won’t kill her. Vince (ep 9) was shot multiple times and came out fine. And if Proxies are awakened by trauma, Ergo Proxy could be trying to traumatize her into that state even if he doesn’t realize it yet (ep 1), where Vincent Law is trying to save her. Also, I agree wholeheartedly with you. On the scale of other characters the two leads could fall for, they’re kind of the only ones around.
Daedalus is called, “The Prince,” which I suspect in his case refers to an actual rank. I’ve always wondered if he isn’t the next ruler of Romdeau. Donov Mayer is the Regent. I think Daedalus and Real are childhood friends because of this. Daedalus seems far too young for Real, and he’s more of a younger brother figure.
Raul has me suspicious though. He doesn’t seem very old to me, and if you look at Witch Hunter Robin, a case could be made for older men developing feelings for the young female lead. But in this case, the money’s still on Vince and Real. I also thing Raul has a better chance of pairing with his Entourage.
Speaking of which, although a case could be made for V or R being repressed, I would say Vince is the more repressed one here. If there is going to be some terrible rabu rabu, it’ll be Real who has to grab Vince and nail him to a wall. But again, based on watching WHR, I believe there’s a higher chance of unspoken and terrible sexual tension pervading the rest of the series. It’ll be great stuff if it does that, but frustrating too.
June 7, 2006 at 1:58 pm
After seeing what happened with episode 12, I think Re-L isn’t necessarily repressed persay. I’d say it’s almost as if she never had a real interest in men, one episode is enough to tell us she’s a career-minded woman. [Hell she even had Iggy talk like a female!] But it’s not like she has no superficial knowledge about males, she can lean on a door like the best of ‘em and kiss like she learned from a manual.
If you want repressed, my money’s on Vincent. Probably the only guy in Romdeau who doesn’t see her as “the Regent’s granddaughter”. Besides having this small crush on her, he thinks of her as a personal saviour back when he wanted to be a good citizen.
[Maybe the fanboys can get some S+M fantasies going on this.]
Re-L was made to be the ideal citizen. Rational, inquisitive, resourceful. How ironic that people like her, Raul and Daedalus would go against the Council and thus everything that represents them. For a city that encourages repressing emotions, it fails.
[One scene in ep 10 might have some giggling fangirls start drawing red lines between Raul and Daedalus. Oh the horror.]
Daedalus I’m not sure, but going just by what he said about being able to harness a Proxy’s power and his obsession with Re-L/Monad there’s a chance for a huge turnaround for the worse. He could become an antagonist, or a martyr. It wouldn’t be too much of a longshot for him to love Re-L romantically speaking, for some reason he talks to her as if she was younger than him. I wouldn’t mind going with the “overprotective brother route”.
About Re-L possibly being Monad, I’m pretty much banking on the directing and editing used in EP. The nice thing about good stories is that they love to give us pieces of the truth and still manage to leave us wondering what the hell is going on.
Like the “Awakening” on Re-L’s bathroom window in episode 1, Vincent had the same word pop up once in his alphabet cereal [and later on "Misfit"]. The amrita cell treatment might also factor into it, but who knows if such foreign cells aren’t compatible with people other than Re-L. Donov and the council practically kept herfrom figuring out what’s going on in the Proxy case, but before that they had Daedalus look after her [and then Monad]. They must’ve figured he was trustworthy enough not to leak too much info and not allow the two to come into contact. At the time anyway. Daedalus practically slapped us in the face with it in episode 10 and the point is further driven home in the next scene with her name called repetitively.
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